INTERVIEW: Embrace Your Inner (Radioactive) Hamster (Part I) – A Chat With Creator and Comic Writer Don Chin

(EDITOR’S NOTE: Special thanks to Don Chin for providing unseen artwork and sharing story concepts and never-before-heard “hamster news” with Paint Monk’s Library. If you enjoyed this interview, Don told me he always welcomes care packages of sunflower seeds and carrot-shaped chew sticks, with an occasional piece of lettuce thrown in for good measure.)

By WALLY MONK – Paint Monk’s Library Editor

WALLY MONK

So how long did it take the writer in you to realize that hamsters could be just as tough as turtles?

DON CHIN

“I had a few hamsters as pets growing up, and while most people think they’re all furry and cuddly, they can also be quite vicious and bite you if they’re not in a good mood. You actually need to separate them, as they are solitary animals. Otherwise, they will fight and be quite nasty to one another. So, if a pet hamster had to go against a pet turtle, I’d put my money on the ticked off hamster!” (laughs)

WALLY MONK

Had you been writing comics beforehand, or was ARBBH your first title?

DON CHIN

“Prior to ARBBH being published, I had done some self-publishing in the early 1980s in high school and after I graduated in a local Eureka, CA-based anthology called Overload, the Fantasy-Humor Magazine. My parents kindly gave us the start-up funds to launch it. We did five issues total, and Parsonavich, whom I met in a high school cartooning class, was also into that. It was kind of a mash-up of Heavy Metal magazine and Mad magazine. I also did some underground/new wave mini comix with Bay Area publisher Clay Geerdes, which I also illustrated in the 1980s. My first professional work was in a few issues of Cracked Magazine, starting with about issue #200 in 1983.” 

  Don’s first professional work was published in a 1983 issue of CRACKED magazine.

WALLY MONK

Please tell me a little bit about the creative process and what made you think hamsters would be a hit. They aren’t slimy like turtles, after all. Did you dream of ninja-hamsters when you were a young kid reading comic books?

DON CHIN

“The creative process for me and comics came pretty easily. I think I was blessed with an overly active creative mind and remember drawing comics as a youth on binder paper as well as making amateur sci-fi and comedy movies with my friends using a Super 8mm camera. I grew up watching a lot of now vintage Saturday Night Live TV shows, Mel Brooks comedies like Young Frankenstein and Silent Movie, and silly movies like “Airplane!” which you can see the the influence of that movie in the first issue of ARBBH when the hamsters wind up on a commercial jetline and all sorts of hijinks occur.

I owned a comic book store when I was in college and had seen that this small press book by Eastman and Laird called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was taking off like wildfire. I had a chance to check it out and really liked it, as it was basically a funny animal spoof of Marvel Comics’ Daredevil and Ronin by Frank Miller. I was doodling in a college class and thought to myself, “I wonder what it would be like to do a parody of a parody?” As far as I know, it wasn’t done before. So I just took each adjective of TMNT and tweaked it, and because of my love-hate relationship with hamsters, it seemed like the best animal to use.”

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
DON CHIN
ARBBH was a “parody of a parody.”
 
 
WALLY MONK
Clint, Jackie, Chuck and Bruce. I’m guessing they were all named after their martial arts alter-egos. Can you share a little bit about how the characters were created – or what inspired each of them individually (beyond the obvious references?)

 

DON CHIN

“Yes, good guess on the names. I was a big martial arts movie fan growing up in the 70s and Bruce Lee was a cinematic hero. The first three hamsters, Bruce (inspired by Bruce Lee), Chuck (Chuck Norris) and Jackie (Jackie Chan) were of course named after those kung-fu mega stars and their hamster personalities were shaped in the same ways to their human counterparts.

“Go ahead. Make me into a hamster parody.”

Bruce is super smart and intellectual, Chuck is kind of a quiet, cool spiritually-centered guy and the voice of reason most of the time, and Jackie was downright silly and youthful like Jackie Chan was in most of his movies.


Because there were four turtles, I couldn’t have just three hamsters, and I was struggling to think of another martial arts star. Then I remembered Clint Eastwood’s “Dirty Harry” cop movies, and thought throwing out a wildcard of sorts would be fun. Clint doesn’t do that much kung-fu…he’s kind of lazy, likes to party, and would rather shoot someone than fight.


I think most people like Clint the best because he’s so unorthodox and obnoxious, but at the same time you’d want him on your side. And just to make it more bizarre, I thought he should look like a punk rocker that resembled a Sex Pistols reject.”

WALLY MONK

Parsonavich was an odd choice for an artist on the comic, but his artwork was endearing in its simplicity when it came to the hammies. What appealed to you about Patrick Parsons’ artistic style that made him a good fit for ARBBH?

DON CHIN
“I probably chose Parsonavich to illustrate ARBBH because he was cheap and local (laughs). Patrick Parsons, his real name (not Chris, as some internet sites have reported it is) was my frequent collaborator on a lot of projects prior to ARBBH and he brought a weird and funky underground vibe to the characters.




Parsonavich, AKA Patrick David Parsons
in his younger hamster days.

We had both grown up admiring non-mainstream comic creators like Moebius, underground legend Robert Crumb, John Pound (who lived in our hometown of Eureka) and Gilbert Shelton, who did the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and Fat Freddy’s Cat. I think it’s kind of funny that they don’t really look like traditional furry cute hamsters, but kind of sickly and abnormal. Cosmic Radioactive Jello will do that to you!


Par and I are polar opposites in our social circles and upbringing…he’s kind of this Boehemian agnostic hippy dude and I’m more of a conservative, church-going type of guy but we both had a great love for comics in common. I have always been in awe of his talent, his intricate line-work in the Hamsters was pretty cool and organic, and he was asked to cram a lot of story into our first issue and subsequent books, #2, #4 and #5. 


Anyways, in my opinion he was the best person for the job because I knew he drew humor cartoons well and could best emulate the undergound feel that TMNT had brought into their books.”

WALLY MONK

When Parsonavich left ARBBH, what did you look for in a replacement?

DON CHIN

“I was sad to see Parsonavich leave the book, but our publisher – Eclipse Comics – really wanted it to be a regular, ongoing title and it was too much work for Par to do all of the pencils, inks, lettering and covers. 



Mike Dringenberg and Sam Kieth
would go on to DC Comics, working
with Neil Gaiman on Sandman
.

Neither of us had been asked to work on a regular title before, so it was quite an undertaking. After he left, a couple guys I had met through self-publishing and from going to comic cons came to mind as possible replacements. Mike Dringenberg had inked a fill-in issue (#3) and did the cover for ARBBH #5 and also worked on inking Clint: The Hamster Triumphant mini-series drawn by Ken Meyer, Jr. 


He is a tremendous artist and was just breaking into the business. Mike and I eventually did a fantasy series for Eclipse called “Enchanter” in 1987 while ARBBH was still being published.


I had also been a fan of Matt Wagner’s Mage series that Comico did and had met Mage inker Sam Kieth, whose own work was kind of toony and fun. Sam got the job starting as the illustrator of issue #6-on until the first series ended. 


Cool story – shortly after ARBBH and Enchanter ended with Eclipse, Sam and Mike both got to create the cult sensation Sandman with Neil Gaiman for DC’s Vertigo comics.”

WALLY MONK
What were the initial sales of ARBBH like at the time? Were you surprised? Disappointed?
 
DON CHIN
“I think Eclipse and I were both surprised when the orders for ARBBH #1 came in. I actually published and printed the first issue at a local printer with a loan from my parents, as Eclipse just wanted to act as a distributing vehicle for the book. 
 
The first printing of ARBBH #1 sold over 50K copies.
The first issue sold well over 50,000 copies and a second printing was probably close to 25,000 copies. That was a lot of orders for a black and white book, so when we saw the positive sales and positive reaction to the book, we decided that we should keep it going. After issue #2, Eclipse was onboard as the publisher of the book.
 
I was pretty excited at the time, as two dreams of mine were being met. I was writing a popular title and i was getting paid well to do comics. I was able to put a down payment on a house from the proceeds from ARBBH, so that was nice.”
 
WALLY MONK
And what was your goal, or vision, for the series and the characters?
 
DON CHIN
“I was hoping it could be a long-running title like TNMT and perhaps get an animated TV show or movie deal and merchandising like the Turtles, but that wasn’t in the cards. 
 
Rankin-Bass, producers of
the animated Hobbit movie,
took out options on ARBBH
.

We were optioned by Rankin-Bass Animation (the people who did “The Hobbit”) early on, but they went out of business. I also got to speak with other people in the animation business like Lou Scheimer, who produced Fat Albert and He-Man. He had a pretty cool house!


Anyways, I wanted to take the characters on a more serious path, so the later Sam Kieth drawn issues are probably a lot more commercial than the Parsonavich books, incorporating more action and tragically, the death of Bruce. 
 
Bruce did get reintroduced again later in a color one-shot book called Target: Airboy #1 as his consciousness was transferred into a behemoth Toe-Jam Sucking Monster from Atlantis.” 
 
WALLY MONK
Eclipse was one of the leading publishers of indie comics in the 1980s. What was their initial reaction to the hamsters? Did they perceive it as a competitor for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or just a cute spin-off?

 

DON CHIN

“I had met Eclipse Comics publishers Dean Mullaney and Cat Yronwode at some Bay area conventions in California trying to get OVERLOAD off the ground. 


I was surprised when I found out their publishing base was not that far away from where I lived, about 3-4 hours north off Highway 101.

Eclipse only distributed the first two
issues of ARBBH; they picked up the
title after the second issue.



I think I had sent them photocopies of the first issue we had been working on and I am so grateful they were willing to give Parsonavich and I a shot. 


They seemed like a very good fit, as they were really creator-friendly, were laid back, and were publishing a lot of great edgy independent titles when I pitched the Hamsters to them.


All of us were really blown away with the amount of popularity ARBBH took on in such a short time.


 I think Eclipse felt ARBBH could be a viable title in its own right, and they really promoted the book to fans and comic store all over the world, so I am very grateful to this day to Dean and Cat, and Dean’s brother Jan, who was also one of the owners of the company.”

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MONDAY – Hamster weekend concludes with Part 2 of Don Chin’s interview! Dynamite Entertainment licenses the ARBBHThe team-ups that never happeneda FEMALE radioactive hamster, and more! Thank you, Don, for taking the time to share your story with our readers.


As always, I am – Wally (AKA Paint Monk

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kenmeyerjr

I loved working on this sucker…one of the most fun jobs of mine, Don was always a blast. It was really nice to work with Mike, too, who went on to Sandman fame, of course.