Posts Tagged ‘Barry Windsor-Smith’

It’s Time to Catch Up on the Classic Conan Countdown

Since Paint Monk’s Library moved to WordPress in early April, I’ve been working diligently to “fix” posts that didn’t port well from Blogger to our new platform.

Paragraph formatting errors, bold face where there shouldn’t be any, and different sized fonts have made many of the old blog posts difficult to read here on our new site.

At this point, I’ve “re-formatted” all 15 original posts of the Classic Conan Countdown, so if you’ve missed any reviews or are just coming on board, you’ll have plenty to read. Links to all of the newly-formatted reviews are below (or you can also find them on the Classic Conan Countdown page).

I would love to hear your thoughts in the comments section of our reviews!

As always, I am – Wally (AKA Paint Monk)

INTERVIEW: Will Barry Windsor-Smith work on New Conan?

By WALLY MONK – Paint Monk’s Library Editor

Marvel Comics has announced the release of a new omnibus edition of their Conan the Barbarian series for release in 2019 well ahead of their expected new Conan series. This special release – set to be available in January 2019 – will include Conan the Barbarian #1-26, Savage Tales #1 and #4, Chamber of Darkness #4 and Conan Classic #1-10.

This new edition has once again been digitally re-mastered, but the inks and colors appear to be much closer to what perhaps the artists’ intended and is much different from the re-inking and re-coloring completed in the Conan: The Barry Windsor-Smith Archive Collection from Dark Horse Comics.

The new coloring (left) in Marvel’s Omnibus versus the Dark Horse BWS archive.

As we roll into the 13th week of our Classic Conan Countdown here at Paint Monk’s Library, we’ve covered reviews of all Conan’s “early” issues featuring the outstanding pencils of the legendary Barry Windsor-Smith. Months ago, I reached out to Mr. Windsor-Smith in the hopes he’d be kind enough to answer some questions for this humble blogger, allowing me to pay tribute to his time on the series as we rolled into the long run of John Buscema’s artwork on the Cimmerian.

Preparing just a few questions for the artist, I was excited! Will Mr. Windsor-Smith be a part of the Conan re-launch at Marvel? Is there a chance that the bullpen at the House of Ideas would do whatever it takes to bring a legend back to their creative fold? The answer, it seems, is a resounding “no”.

WALLY MONK
Did you have any idea at the time that the series on which you were working (Conan) would span 275 issues? And did you think you would be considered a “legacy artist” based on your Conan work alone? You have worked on many other fantastic projects, but your Conan artwork is a landmark for many fans.
 
BARRY WINDSOR-SMITH
“Conan the Barbarian was on shaky ground for the first year so I wouldn’t have guessed it would have such longevity. Although I enjoyed several of Robert E. Howard’s books and I was thoroughly involved in each story I created or co-created I wasn’t deeply invested in the REH mythology nor its place in Marvel Comics’ publishing history. Because Conan was not part of the Marvel Universe there was a greater freedom to pursue his character and his world. My involvement was more of a personal nature than any superhero book I created.

To be honest with you, I’ve got no idea what ‘legacy artist’ means. Who came up with this term and for what purpose? Is John Buscema also a ‘legacy artist?’ Or is he the main ‘legacy artist’ with I being the runner up?”
 
WALLY MONK
In an early interview (Comics Journal, I believe) you mention you were not particularly happy with your work on Conan. I don’t mean to re-hash things you’ve already spoken of, but would you share with our readers “why” you felt Conan was a let-down for you in some ways?
 
BARRY WINDSOR-SMITH
“I can’t recall the interview you’re referencing. I toiled passionately on the stories and art of those early issues. In fact, I worked so hard that I barely had a social life. I couldn’t afford to eat out and I had to make do with pizza and fish out of tins. I wasn’t paid nearly enough for my commitment to the work and I wasn’t credited or paid for my stories or dialogue.” 
 
WALLY MONK
Had you remained onboard with Marvel, did you have any specific ideas for things you would have liked to do with Conan? And what parts of your work on Conan were satisfying? What was the favorite story on which you worked?
Art from Conan the Barbarian #4, which Barry Windsor-Smith considered a turning point for his work.
 
BARRY WINDSOR-SMITH
“I had many ideas and plans for directions I wanted Conan the Barbarian to go but c’est la vie. ‘The Tower of the Elephant’ story was a turning point for me, a milestone in the evolution of my storytelling. I dreamed most of the scenes before I composed them. The next day, I did my best to draw the pages as I had envisioned them the night before in my sleep. I created most of the adaptation that way. It was a practically mystical experience.” 
 
WALLY MONK
The reprints of your work – such as the Barry Windsor-Smith Conan Archives by Dark Horse – are of high quality, but the newer inking style sometimes dilutes the fine lined artwork you worked so hard to see published. If a reader was to look for a “collection” of your work that you are comfortable with, what would that be?
 
BARRY WINDSOR-SMITH
“The re-coloring of the Dark Horse reprints was abominable and reprehensible. The only choice to see the comics as they were intended to be is to purchase the actual editions from the 1970s. That or the Conan Saga reprints in black and white.”

WALLY MONK
This is a long shot, but as you know, Marvel will be getting the Conan license back in 2019. Is there a chance we might see you re-visit the Cimmerian? Or would you have any interest in doing so?
 
BARRY WINDSOR-SMITH
“No. I won’t touch Conan again. That bird has flown.”
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I’ve taken Mr. Windsor-Smith’s suggestion and so far have collected issues #1-7 of Conan the Barbarian, with the premiere issue sitting at CBCS while I type this article (UPDATE: It came back as a 4.5 and I’ve since purchased the first Marvel Omnibus which collects BWS entire run.)
 
Thank you, Mr. Windsor-Smith, for your time.

As always, I am – Wally (AKA Paint Monk)

REVIEW: Big Jax, A Dancing Hyrkanian & A Serpent Tiara

(EDITOR’S NOTE: Welcome to The Classic Conan Countdown, a series of reviews focusing on the original 275 issues of Marvel Comics’ Conan the Barbarian, which were published from 1970 to 1993. This is a review of Conan the Barbarian (Vol. 1) #118.)

By JOESEPH SIMON – PM Library Writer

This issue features the second appearance of the red-haired force of nature, Red Sonja, and it’s definitely something to cheer about! It’s also near the end of the Makkalet storyline. For me, there were some good stories during the Makkalet arc, but I didn’t particularly like the city or the setting.

I think it was more confusing than it had to be and Makkalet doesn’t feature prominently in future stories. I suspect others felt the same way about these tales.

Dean Plakas is correct in his assessment of the conservative nature of Barry Windsor-Smith’s Red Sonja in his review of Conan the Barbarian #23. I’m glad other artists gave her the trademark look that remains popular today. I’m not quite sure her rise in popularity would have sustained itself otherwise.

My critique of Sonja’s appearance is not made to diminish her personality or impact in the stories. She has plenty of both. I do love Smith’s artwork, but many of his women look the same and are not as memorable as a result in a visual sense. Red Sonja manages to stay away from the familiar-looking Smith women to a degree.

So what of the story of “The Song of Red Sonja?”

Review of Conan the Barbarian #24

Once again, our scene is set in a tavern. As with many such locations in the Hyborian Age, ale flows freely and women are dancing. The dancing woman in question this night is Red Sonja. Conan has a front row view with everyone else in the crowded bar captivated and chanting her name (as Son-ya.)

Another common element in Hyborian taverns are brawls – one of which quickly ensues when a companion to Red Sonja’s party, Big Jax, wants Sonja to sit with him. Big Jax, sadly, had part of his head cleaved off by an axe in a previous battle and it’s made him rather dull-witted. This escalates into a fight with Conan that turns into a full-fledged bar room brawl.

Big Jax just wanted Sonja to sit with him and look at the mess now…

Conan and Sonja, having their fill of battle, run outside to jump into a pool of water for an improvisational dip to cool off. Sonja plunges in, and re-emerging from the water has taken off her chain mail top. Before things can turn PG-13, Romantic Red teases Conan and they get out of the pool.

I don’t quite recall where, but I remember reading about how this scene did have edits to make it more reader-friendly. Remember, we’re not talking about covering up full nudity. Smith, no doubt, knew the rules of Marvel, a primary rule seemingly being that “sometimes less is more.” My memory on this continues to be lacking, but I believe there was a re-printing, perhaps a giant-sized, treasury edition, that showed Smith’s real intentions for the scene.

The story shifts to palace guards asking the tavern owner about the brawl. While they discuss the details, the guards realize that their horses are being stolen….by Sonja and Conan! The end of the first part of the story sees our red-spirited beauty and her enamored barbarian friend taking the road towards the royal palace.

The second part of the comic begins with a Howard-penned poem referencing the man called Kharam-Akkad. When we next see Conan and Sonja, they are facing a tower (Roy Thomas’ and Robert E. Howard’s fascination with towers apparently continues!)

Towers, as all readers know by now, are never good for Conan. Ignoring his past encounters with previous structures like these, our Cimmerian attempts to arouse Sonja in talk and bodily bravado only to be punched squarely in the face, with enough force to fall back into some bushes.

Speaking of personality…Conan responds with “By Crom, girl — I’ve killed men for less than that!” and Sonja mic-drops Conan with “For what? For not letting you kiss them?

Sonja lays Conan out with a mean left hook.

An interesting sidenote is Red mocking Conan for pronouncing her name as Son-ya – “you pronounce my name as if there is apish blood in you” she says. I thought of the Hulk when I read Sonja’s comment!

Into the tower the pair travel, luckily entering a riches-filled room high inside the structure. Conan is enchanted by the treasures while Red says wisely to check the corridors for guards and more danger.

In my review of Conan the Barbarian #21, I mentioned how Conan was not quite “king material” at this point. He has much to learn. Even here, on a basic level, he is still learning. At least Red knows to police your area!

Conan goes to secure the room as requested and Red comes across a bejeweled serpent tiara. One moment all seems promising, the next Conan hears her screaming and he finds himself racing to her aid. This is the end of “Part Two.”

What kind of mess has the fire-haired Hyrkanian got herself into now? And how does Conan end up learning yet another lesson about women and ending up with another “Charlie Brown” moment?

CAPSULE REVIEW: This is a bittersweet issue. While I may be disappointed with the artistic interpretation of Sonja, I find Barry Windsor-Smith to be a great artist with a renowned style. Without his artwork, Conan may never have reached 24 issues. Roy Thomas is to be credited as much as Smith, and as a team, they did rule supreme (even if there were moments of occasional tension!) Either way, they created something different, something new, something challenging for the 1970s while standing the test of time even today.

It is then sad, as this issue is the last of the Roy Thomas / Barry Windsor-Smith run. It’s not entirely bad news, as Smith’s time with Conan helps propel him to greater heights in his career. We, as fans, can purchase many different reprints and collections representing this grand period of Conan. And it won’t be the last time we find these creative juggernauts working together.

I think it will be interesting as we progress further in the Classic Conan Countdown to see how the team dynamic changes as Roy Thomas works with new artists.

Creativity when shared can be powerful, creating things that otherwise would not exist with just one or the other or with someone else involved. Commonly acknowledged with great bands and musicians, collaborations in comics can be just as rewarding. Robert E Howard, Roy Thomas, and Barry Windsor-Smith have been and always will be known as a team worthy of reading as much as they were when these issues were first released.

Storywise, Red Sonja is the saving grace of this particular comic. Place any other female that Conan has met to this point in the series and you would not have the same story. You can, however, replace Conan with another heroic barbarian hero in this specific story and it won’t affect the dynamic at all.

No one knew that Red Sonja would soar to great fame – given that she did, I would rate this issue a 7.5 out of 10. Seeing that this is the end of a legendary creative team up, I’ll kick the score up to an 8.5.

On eBay, copies of this issue in ungraded condition were readily available in the $35-60 range.

REVIEW: Of Aesir and Vanir, Conan the King & a Star-Stone

(EDITOR’S NOTE: Welcome to the Classic Conan Countdown, a series of reviews focusing on the original 275 issues of Marvel Comics’ Conan the Barbarian, which was published from 1970 to 1993. This is a review of Conan the Barbarian Vol. 1, #1.)

By WALLY MONK – Paint Monk’s Library Editor

Conan the Barbarian is a Marvel Comics legacy thanks largely to editor and writer Roy Thomas.

In 1970, Marvel put up an offer to license fantasy author Lin Carter’s Thongor as a comic book property. But according to a 2010 article in Comic Book Resources, Carter’s agent wanted more money than Marvel was willing to pony up at the time. That’s what prompted Roy Thomas to reach out to the estate of Robert E. Howard for Conan.

The deal was inked, but because Conan was a new idea for Marvel, outside the realm of their standard super-hero fare, the House of Ideas wasn’t willing to spend much on the project. As Roy Thomas told the publication Alter Ego in 2007:

At the time, Marvel was owned by Martin Goodman, and he felt that my rate was too high to take a gamble [with] on some new kind of [project]. It wasn’t a superhero or anything that had been done before. The closest thing to that would be Tarzan. Anyway, he had no confidence in spending too much money on the book, and that’s where Barry Smith came in — [he was] very cheap. I know what he got paid, and I’d be embarrassed to tell you how much it was, because I’d be embarrassed for Marvel.

Roy Thomas

Roy Thomas would continue writing Conan the Barbarian for Marvel from the first issue through issue #115 and would return to close out the series, writing a large number of the last thirty or forty issues up until the very end. And the “gamble” on Barry Windsor-Smith, of course, paid off – he won the 1970 Academy of Comic Book Arts Shazam Award for Best New Talent. Windsor-Smith drew most issues of Conan the Barbarian until issue #24.

Following the success of Conan as a comic, Lin Carter would later allow Thongor – the property that “could have been” the introduction to the swords-and-sorcery genre in comics – to be published by Marvel. Thongor, Warrior of Lost Lemuria appeared in several issues of Creatures on the Loose (as did Robert E. Howard’s King Kull.)  

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Review: Conan the Barbarian (Vol. 1) #1

Conan the Barbarian #1 – “The Coming of Conan!”

It doesn’t take long for Conan to start doing what Conan does best! In the premier issue of Marvel’s barbarian adventures, we’re treated to a beautiful full-page splash by Windsor-Smith. This premiere issue doesn’t have the Conan introduction that we know and love – the one that begins with “Know, O Prince, that before the oceans drank Atlantis..” It’s a true introduction to an unknown comic, one that invites readers to visit the Hyborian Age, where “a man’s life-worth was no more than the strength of his sword arm.

After this brief introduction, we’re thrust right into a battle. A young Conan has hired himself out as a sell-sword, and is fighting with the Aesir in a battle against the Vanir of Vanaheim. Conan makes it only to the second page before he slays his first Vanir! 

Conan sees Olav, the leader of the Aesir warriors outmatched by three Vanir, and he quickly steps in to save his ally. Olav compliments Conan on his honesty when the Cimmerian simply says he fights for the Aesir because they pay better. “Hmph! An honest Cimmerian!” Olav says, as the Aesir collect their fighters and bury their dead, letting the Vanir retreat. Olav makes it clear that when the group is rested, they’ll march to finish off their Vanir enemies.

Back at the Vanir encampment, the outlook is grim. Despite outnumbering the Aesir before this battle, now their numbers are seriously depleted. In the fashion of true villains, Vanir chieftan Volff decides it’s time to make a break for it, leaving his own men to die. 

As Volff and his lackey Hothar beat feet for greener pastures, they find a cave marked with strange sigils. From inside, a voice beckons to them both. Warily entering the cave, Volff and Hothar meet The Shaman and a woman named Tara. The Shaman has a way for Volff to defeat his enemies – the power that comes from the Star-Stone. It’s apparently a device that fell from the sky and allows The Shaman to call forth winged demons and see the future. All he needs is Conan’s body to fulfill an ancient ritual, and in exchange, he’ll help Volff be victorious.

Volff eagerly agrees, and Conan and his Aesir companions are soon beset upon by winged nightmares called forth from the Star-Stone. Olav is overcome by these demonic adversaries, and they eventually manage to capture Conan, as he’s knocked unconscious after being dropped by one of the demons from a dizzying height.

Conan awakens in a room with Tara, where he learns he is to be part of a “ceremony of transferal.” The Star-Stone begins glow, showing the future to all in the room. The Shaman is horrified when he witnesses the Cimmerian he is planning to sacrifice being crowned King of the Hyborian Empire.

How can Conan have a “future” if he is going to be sacrificed in the transferal ceremony? And what exactly is this mysterious ritual?

CAPSULE REVIEW:  It’s hard to argue that Conan the Barbarian #1 is anything less than an exciting and compelling introduction to the sword-and-sorcery genre in comics. It’s a gamble Marvel Comics took that paid off. Roy Thomas’ scripting is poetic in many ways, and it’s only complimented by the excellent artwork of newcomer (at the time) Barry Windsor-Smith. The art and story go hand in hand, and both are high quality.

If you’re familiar with the fantasy novels of the 60s and 70s, and their rich covers by Frank Frazetta and Boris Vallejo, this comic book tries to channel that spirit. It’s a book that sets the bar for fantasy comics of that era, and one of the examples of quality fantasy that made names like Windsor-Smith, Frank Thorne and John Buscema household names in fantasy artwork.

The storytelling here is so good that both the story and artwork could stand alone – yet together they weave an intriguing tale that kept readers coming back again for decades. On a scale of 1-10, I’d rate this issue a 9.5 for trend setting artwork and story, the introduction of a genre, and the team of Windsor-Smith and Thomas. 

High grades of this issue are expensive, but not cost prohibitive for such a key comic. As of this review, two CGC 9.4 graded copies sold on eBay for $670 and $699 respectively. Mid grade copies at CGC 7.0 sold for less than $200Ungraded copies claiming to be in “F/VF” condition sold for less than $100

As always, I am – Wally (AKA Paint Monk)