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INTERVIEW: Jim Zub’s Conan #19 Coming Out March 10

(AUTHOR’S NOTE: It has been no secret that I have had issues with Marvel’s relaunch of Robert E. Howard’s Conan. The one bright spot has been the writing of Jim Zub. I was a fan before he took up the challenge of being the Cimmerian’s primary scribe, particularly of the comic adventures of Pathfinder’s iconic characters.

He has done an admirable job with Conan and I am thrilled to share with you this short interview as we lead up to the next exciting arc in the adventures of Conan the Barbarian.)

By BOB FREEMAN – Paint Monk’s Library Writer

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BOB FREEMAN

Thanks for being patient with me, Jim. The world sort of got turned on its ear in March of 2020 and we’re still not out of the woods quite yet. No one has felt the brunt of this, creatively, more than you, I suspect. With your run on Conan the Barbarian interrupted just as it was gathering steam, I can imagine you had more than a few sleepless nights.

JIM ZUB

It was definitely surreal having this bucket list project finally launch and then the world slide into an unexpected state of chaos. I had originally planned a really aggressive convention schedule and a big part of that was going to be Conan-focused, but then the whole convention calendar shut down, and then, a couple of months later, the Conan monthly series was on pause. A 6-month gap right in the middle of our first story arc was not ideal, but thankfully when we came back in October we were able to pick back up and are now pushing hard with new issues in 2021.

That’s where my focus is now – beating the drum as hard as I can to make sure readers know we’re building something special and that the series is worth following, month after month and collection after collection, especially with Conan the Barbarian #19 coming in March as the start of a new arc and perfect jumping-on point.

BOB FREEMAN

As you’ve often stated, writing Robert E. Howard’s Cimmerian is a dream job for you. I’d be interested in the backstory of how you discovered Conan. It’s often telling if one’s introduction came by way of Howard, Thomas, or Schwarzenegger.

JIM ZUB

The original Arnold Conan film came out when I was 6 years old, so I wasn’t able to see it in theaters but the ripple effect it had on visibility for the character was immediately apparent and it got my older brother to start reading the original books. So many of my fandoms came from following in his footsteps, and in this case that meant reading the Lancer paperbacks, he started collecting and then shifting from there over to the Conan comics. Since the film was R-rated, I wouldn’t see it until years later on home video. I was still technically under-age for it, but we were in the midst of our sword & sorcery obsession with Dungeons & Dragons and fantasy novels aplenty, so it didn’t feel too severe.

A preview of Cory Smith’s artwork from the upcoming Conan the Barbarian #19.

BOB FREEMAN

You’ve had the chance to work with several artists that have really done your writing justice, but I have to say, after seeing previews of Cory Smith’s art, there’s some real ‘pop’ to these new pages. The layouts are really spectacular. That’s got to be inspiring.

JIM ZUB

Agreed! Cory is doing a stunning job on each issue and really carrying forth in the tradition of some of the best Conan comic artists of the past with rock-solid storytelling and dynamic action. It’s funny because on a phone call early on he admitted to me that he wasn’t generally a fantasy guy in terms of his own reading and drawing, but with each page he’s gotten more into it and is now starting to dig back through the classics and appreciate how well done they were. I think at first he assumed it would be easier than the kind of technical drawing he did before with cityscapes and sci-fi stuff, but the figure work and other details have provided their own challenges and he’s making the most of it.

What’s also crazy is that the page samples going around are just from his first issue. I feel like, as good as those are, issue #20 and 21 are even stronger, so readers are in for a real treat.

Another piece of sample artwork from Conan the Barbarian #19.

BOB FREEMAN

I appreciate how you’ve approached the character, staying true to the Cimmerian’s personality, especially in Howard’s tales of his early years. You’re delivering some dynamic prose that really breathes life into the Hyborian Age and its principal antagonist. Your plots, however, have tended to lean heavily on your experience with roleplaying game storytelling, which has been a nice change of pace. There’s a freshness to the stories that set your Conan apart.

JIM ZUB

Thanks so much. I really appreciate the kind words about the stories. It means the world to me to know that fans of the characters are enjoying them.

BOB FREEMAN

Tell me how you got into playing RPGs. What era did you come up in? I first rolled dice in 1978 with the Holmes Blue Book, and I never looked back, exploring every edition since, as well as countless other RPGs, like Gamma World, Top Secret, Traveller, and every iteration of Lord of the Rings and Conan that have seen print (and some that haven’t).

Zub’s introduction to fantasy RPGs came from the D&D Red Box rules set.

JIM ZUB

I started gaming with the D&D Basic Red Box, but my brother and I didn’t fully understand the differences between editions or Basic and Advanced D&D so our collection became a hodge-podge of different material with the Mentzer Basic Set, Moldvay Expert Set, and first printings of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide and Monster Manual. As you might imagine, trying to keep the rules consistent early on was a challenge.

I’ve said this many times, but I wouldn’t be a writer today without D&D. It gave me a lot of confidence and ignited a desire to create stories and characters instead of just reading them. For me, coming up with scenarios and writing dialogue is very much about role-playing. I don’t want the characters to talk like I do, I want them to sound like themselves.

Robert E. Howard is one of the many influences on D&D, but it also carries a lot of other elements in there as well that I don’t feel translate back to Conan, so I sprinkle in a bit of D&D-esque dungeon delving and dark magic but do my best to hew to something more REH or Roy Thomas-influenced where possible.

In addition to writing Conan the Barbarian for Marvel, I’ve been writing official Dungeons & Dragons comics since 5th edition D&D launched in 2014. Writing two of the biggest fantasy properties in the world at the same time is absolutely surreal and I work really hard to make sure they feel distinct from each other.

BOB FREEMAN

I recognize some of your influences, but I’d be curious to know who some of your favorite authors are and what books mean the most to you, personally, and as a storyteller. Comic influences as well.

JIM ZUB

In addition to Robert E. Howard, Fritz Leiber and Lloyd Alexander were big for me growing up. Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser felt like a gloomier version of D&D-style capers and I loved those books. Before those, I devoured The Chronicles of Prydain. The Dragonlance novels by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman and the original Icewind Dale Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore also arrived at a pretty formative time.

Lloyd Alexander’s Chronicles of Prydain were among the many books that introduced Zub to the fantasy genre.

I also got a big kick out of some of the Fighting Fantasy novels because they mixed Choose Your Own Adventure-style choices with a dice-rolling combat mechanic. There’s artwork from Forest of Doom, City of Thieves and Deathtrap Dungeon burned into my brain alongside imagery from the Monster Manual and specific D&D adventure modules.

In terms of comics – Roy Thomas on Conan (both Barbarian and Savage Sword), Chris Claremont on Uncanny X-Men, and Roger Stern on Amazing Spider-Man and Doctor Strange are three big influences from my early collecting years. Later on, I’d also seek out work from J.M. DeMatteis, Ann Nocenti, Frank Miller and Neil Gaiman.

Obviously the writing was crucial, but great art really drove it all home, so fantasy illustrators like Frazetta, Elmore, and Easley grabbed my attention alongside comic artists like Paul Smith, Gene Colan, Michael Golden, or Art Adams.

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The next arc begins with issue #19, dropping on March 10th, where we find Conan in the Land of the Lotus! Here’s Marvel’s announcement:

CONAN’s march to Khitai has landed him as the prisoner of the imperial guard…but it will take more than chains to keep a Cimmerian down! As Conan plans his escape, what dreaded beasts lurk in the land of Khitai, and what new dangers will impede his quest to return the TOOTH OF THE NIGHTSTAR to its rightful master? The travels of Conan the Barbarian continue with the perfect jumping-on point for new or lapsed readers! Join us as we welcome new series penciler CORY SMITH to the Hyborian Age in this epic adventure!

EDITORIAL: Ka-Zar’s Death? Sorry, No Apology Is Due

“This editorial is full of spoilers for all three issues of Empyre: Avengers. If you haven’t read them or had your fill of modern comic book plots that have been beaten to death, go read the comics and come back when you’re done. Or, if you’re indifferent like I am at this point, read on. The resolution of this story fundamentally changes a major character and points out more problems in today’s comic industry than you might imagine.”

By WALLY MONK – PM Library Editor

Ka-Zar the Savage is dead. Long live Ka-Zar the Savage!

Wait a moment, monk. What are you talking about? Kevin Plunder is alive and well, now plugged full of the magical power of the Savage Land! How can he be dead?

I suppose you’re correct. Kevin Plunder is indeed alive, but he’s not the savage that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created – the one who jumped off the pages of X-Men #10 with a roar of “Ka-Zar Kill!” I’d venture to say he’s not even the savage that Brent Anderson and Bruce Jones worked hard to mold, one that was a genuine “evolution” of Lee and Kirby’s creation.

Now, thanks to Marvel editorial and one tremendously talented but misguided writer, Ka-Zar is just like all the other guys. In the pages of Empyre: Avengers, we first saw him “killed” (sigh) and then brought back to life courtesy of a magical blade and the life-saving waters of the Savage Land. Not only is he back, but now he’s a scion – one with the land itself – sort of, I would imagine an Earth Mother (father) version of Doctor Strange. And don’t fret, my activist friends and readers, Shanna has the same powers too, so that’s another thing the jungle duo has in common.

Now before anyone gets their drawers in a twist, I understand that our favorite heroes evolve. They learn. They change. I’ll never object to the genuine personal growth of a character. But at the heart of a person or hero is their origin; the thing that makes them tick at the basest level survives.

Let me explain by example. I have always been Wally. From the time I was young, I loved the church and comic books. I was the youngest kid in Sunday School to read; I was buying comics off the rack when I was 6 and actually “reading” most of them. I loved dinosaurs, Ka-Zar, Conan and eventually the X-Men and the Avengers. In my teenage years, I discovered girls and groups of friends and comic books took a back seat, but the love of the medium was there. As an adult, I’ve embraced my love of the Church through active ministry AND held fast to my love of comics and collecting in my spare time. You can see the Wally of “yesterday” in the Wally of today.

So, too, can we look at Ka-Zar. He was a boy saved by a sabretooth, learning to live off the land and survive in a hostile environment. Eventually, he would grow up, meet many different women (Bobbi Morse and Shanna, most notably) and start a family. At his core, he was a normal man, battling both his longing for civilization and love of the Savage Land where he grew up. The key word is normal – he was never super-powered, and therein lay the appeal of the character. Up until this story line, you could see the Ka-Zar of the 1960s through the eyes of his modern incarnation.

But the House of Ideas has scrapped that. Now, he’s imbued with the powers of the land itself. He’s not a normal man. With the typing of some keys and editors nodding in approval, Ka-Zar has become yet another hero with weird powers, suitable for a few story lines and unsuitable for others. Ka-Zar, as we know the character, is still dead. Perhaps he’ll be a better fit for the Agents of Wakanda now that he’s another member with superhuman abilities?

We see the same problems with Marvel’s latest iteration of Conan. While the company churns out reprints of Conan classics in Epic Collection form, they struggle to tell new (or good) Conan stories in his Hyborian environment. What’s the solution? To have him fight along with the Savage Avengers, and introduce him to the regular Marvel Universe.

It’s not difficult to tell a good story. And while I don’t have the big writing gig at Marvel that Jim Zub does, many of these creatives have the skills and the tools to write competently while respecting the history of the characters that have built Marvel’s legacy.

Or the company can keep letting sales slide while assuming that readers are too dumb to know the difference between gimmicks and storytelling. Did I mention that the upcoming Eternals #1 is rumored to have over twenty different “variant” covers? I’m sure The Mouse is hoping readers “buy them all” as the cash register drawers open over and over again.

At the risk of speaking for other vintage comic fans, I have always believed telling real stories with real characters that have stood the test of time is the only solution to a sales or marketing slump. It’s easy to keep the readers engaged looking for a top-notch run of issues like Frank Miller’s time on Daredevil or Walt Simonson’s Thor epic.

Maybe it’s just easier to rehash the same worthless summer story lines or create holofoil-chromium-vibranium-enforced variant editions. I refuse to believe that the next Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore or Chris Claremont aren’t out there somewhere. Hopefully, they will show their face one day in the form of something new and exciting that doesn’t mean destroying what’s already been done.

Ka-Zar the Savage is dead. Long live Ka-Zar the Savage!

As always, I am – Wally (AKA Paint Monk)

CLICK HERE to read Library scribe Bob Freeman’s take on this topic in comics.

EDITORIAL: How I Learned to Hate Jim Zub and Marvel

“He’s a nice guy. He even provided a wonderful and in-depth interview for this site. He’s a talented writer, one of the more promising new talents to come out of Marvel along with Jason Aaron and Donny Cates. But alas, it’s true. Both Mr. Zub and the House of Ideas can kiss my grits, as Flo would say at the old diner. Now that I have your attention, let me explain.”

By WALLY MONK – PM Library Editor

OK, so hate – as in the headline – is a really powerful word. How about we use ‘strongly dislike’ instead?

One need not be a Harvard graduate to know that 2020 has been a roller coaster of a year and it’s not likely to end soon.

Divisive politics. COVID-19. Isolation. Lockdowns. Inexcusable police brutality. Riots. Occupied zones in American cities. Joe Biden (or Donald Trump, depending on your political leanings) running for President in a major election.

And now this. It may not be a life or death issue as some of the things I just mentioned, but it’s the horseradish icing on a year that’s been a big sewage-flavored birthday cake up until this point.

Yes, my friends and library cardholders, Jim Zub, a writer whom I both respected and admired, has seemingly KILLED OFF one of Marvel’s longest-running and notably vintage characters. “Ka-Zar” as a jungle lord has existed in the form of David Rand since the original Marvel Comics #1 (next to older versions of Human Torch and Namor). Kevin Plunder, the Ka-Zar we know today, still has a distinguished history, having been reinvented from the original in the pages of X-Men #10 back in the 1960s by the late legends Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.

As of the end of Empyre: Avengers #2 (SPOILER ALERT), Ka-Zar the Savage has a massive weapon protruding from his chest, having been stabbed from behind by an alien Cotati warrior.

Knowing Marvel and their penchant for gimmicks, this is most likely a “fake death” since (SPOILER ALERT) I’ve been told She-Hulk and Black Panther bit the dust in the same story line. But Ka-Zar is not the money-maker that Black Panther and She-Hulk are, so I’m wondering if the death of this classic hero might be a (poorly executed) chance for the House of Ideas to tie up some loose ends.

Ka-Zar and his female jungle-dwelling counterpart, Shanna, had a child named Matthew in the course of many guest appearances, and the lady of the Savage Land’s pregnancy was announced in Ka-Zar the Savage #34.

No writer has known what to do with any of the characters – most notably Matthew – since this union of Savage and She-Devil occurred. To illustrate this point, two different Marvel apps give their child two different names – Adam Kyle Matthew in one instance, and Matthew Kyle Andrew in another. Mark Waid created a nanny character who took care of Matthew while Ka-Zzar and Shanna went off adventuring.

Talk about a continuity and narrative nightmare!

These days, Matthew Plunder is rocking out in the Savage Land, and most of his dialogue in recent comics- and this latest installment – reminds me of Pauly Shore or some random California surfer from the 1990s.

A very telling moment comes in this same issue, where The Black Knight mistakes Ka-Zar’s son for the Savage himself. Is this a set-up for Matthew to take on the mantle of his father?

“I’m not Ka-Zar, dude. It’s Okay, it happens all the time.”

Boy, would that be a cop out and a seriously awkward piece of bad writing. One of the sayings that gets beaten like a dead horse around the library is the concept of “playing with the toys in the sandbox without breaking them”, but it’s a legitimate critique of contemporary comic narratives.

I can only think of three major deaths in comic history that meant much to the readership without being cliche – and those three were the original Captain Marvel, Jean-Grey in Uncanny X-Men, and Superman. Ironically, of those three, only one “stayed” dead. The deaths of supporting characters Gwen Stacy in the pages of Spider-Man might make the list, and perhaps the death of Conan’s paramour Belit as well.

At this point, you’re probably wondering, why does this knucklehead care so much about a comic book character? Or, with everything going on, is he seriously this upset about a second-string character from an old ‘funny book’?

Yes. And no.

For those of us who have loved comics since childhood, the characters who shaped our youth become part of our of fond memories. To lose a character that you care about moves you in some way, even if it’s only in the imagination. To give Zub credit, he did accomplish one of every writer’s goals – the goal of stirring emotion among your readers.

But no, I will not be losing any real sleep over the loss of a comic book character. I won’t be leading the “hashtag Cancel Marvel or Jim Zub” campaign. This issue might me shake my fist angrily at Jim and the Marvel bullpen, but in the end, he’s a good writer, even if he did a really dumb, dumb thing in the killing of my favorite savage. Unlike the fans who demanded the infamous “Hail Hydra!” story line be stopped immediately, I’ll anxiously wait this one out to see what happens.

In the event that Kevin Plunder somehow survives, I might even assemble an equally lengthy “apology” column to both Jim Zub and Marvel.

Time will tell.

As always, I am – Wally (AKA Paint Monk)